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Group: DynoMotion Message: 5285 From: himykabibble Date: 6/21/2012
Subject: KAnalog vs Gecko G320X
Tom,

I'm wondering if there would be any functional/feature advantage to consider replacing my two Gecko G320s and two G320Xs with a KAnalog. Certainly, from a wiring, packaging and space standpoint, it would be a significant improvement. The software programmability of the servo parameters would also be really nice (right now, the Gecko adjustments are very hard to get to, and it's near impossible to monitor the error signal in-situ).

What would I gain or lose in terms of I/Os, as I'm close to using up everything on the KFlop? It appears the KAnalog uses up JP4, and may obstruct access to JP5?

Regards,
Ray L.
Group: DynoMotion Message: 5287 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 6/21/2012
Subject: Re: KAnalog vs Gecko G320X
Hi Ray,

I assume you meant to say SnapAmp rather than Kanalog.

SnapAmp uses up JP4 so you lose those 10 KFLOP IO, but SnapAmp adds 14 GPIO, plus 10 optos,  4 differential encoders, plus the 4 amplifiers.

KFLOP JP5 is still available.

You may not have the same current capability.  I think the G320X is 20A cont and peak??  SnapAmp is 12.5A cont 25A peak.

BTW you should still be able to tune the Geckos using the Step Response Screen if you connect the encoders back to KFLOP.

Regards
TK

Group: DynoMotion Message: 5288 From: himykabibble Date: 6/21/2012
Subject: Re: KAnalog vs Gecko G320X
Tom,

Yes, I meant SnapAmp. Current should not be a problem - my servos are rated at 8.5A continuous, 38A peak, and the only time I probably hit the Gecko max is when I run into a vise or clamp.... The extra I/O would sure be nice.

The Gecko method of tuning has you monitor the actual internal analog error signal with an o'scope. It actually works better than watching the encoder on the KFlop (which I have done), but getting to the test point is hard - it's just a 1mm pad on the PCB, so you have to have good access to be able to do it, and it's real easy to blow something up if you're not careful. In my system, it's a LOT of trouble to get to the test points, as the Geckos are all buried in a big E-Box that's jammed packed with ALL the electronics for the mill.

Regards,
Ray L.

--- In DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com, Tom Kerekes <tk@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ray,
>
> I assume you meant to say SnapAmp rather than Kanalog.
>
> SnapAmp uses up JP4 so you lose those 10 KFLOP IO, but SnapAmp adds 14 GPIO, plus 10 optos,  4 differential encoders, plus the 4 amplifiers.
>
> KFLOP JP5 is still available.
>
> You may not have the same current capability.  I think the G320X is 20A cont and peak??  SnapAmp is 12.5A cont 25A peak.
>
>
> BTW you should still be able to tune the Geckos using the Step Response Screen if you connect the encoders back to KFLOP.
>
> Regards
> TK
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: himykabibble <jagboy@...>
> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:20 AM
> Subject: [DynoMotion] KAnalog vs Gecko G320X
>
>
>  
> Tom,
>
> I'm wondering if there would be any functional/feature advantage to consider replacing my two Gecko G320s and two G320Xs with a KAnalog. Certainly, from a wiring, packaging and space standpoint, it would be a significant improvement. The software programmability of the servo parameters would also be really nice (right now, the Gecko adjustments are very hard to get to, and it's near impossible to monitor the error signal in-situ).
>
> What would I gain or lose in terms of I/Os, as I'm close to using up everything on the KFlop? It appears the KAnalog uses up JP4, and may obstruct access to JP5?
>
> Regards,
> Ray L.
>